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Post by ! Chad ! on Sept 19, 2008 22:23:50 GMT -4
Renny and PG can post their opening statements here, then the Jury of 9 can ask them questions,questions end sunday/monday night at 10pm EST at which point the F2 can post their closing statements. Jury Can Vote at anytime, Finale Anywhere from Monday-Wednesday.
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Post by mvonneumann (Linden Ashbey) on Sept 19, 2008 22:58:09 GMT -4
congrats to you two PGL and Renny, I have to say well played on your both your parts.
I have a separate question for each of you that you can either post here or pm to me, either way I don't care,
PGL: For the most part you played what appeared to be an honest game, however I do believe its imposable to make it this far without telling at least one lie,
What was the Biggest Lie you told in order to advance yourself in the game?
Renny: First Off no hard feelings for giving me the boot and Im going to give you a question that could earn you my vote,
Remember way back when at the very start of the game when you said Kathleen told you about My idea for us three plus simpleton, but that tipped me off for my spy guess.
Well was that a reason why you decided to go after me in the final 5, or was there other reasons and If so what were they?
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 20, 2008 0:04:21 GMT -4
Congrats on u 2 making the finals
These questions are for both of you Why shouldnt u win and give specific reasons? Tell me what your strategy was throughout this game, and who your allies were Were you in anyway dishonest or misleading to anyone in the game? What happened? Rank the jury, and tell me who do you think each of us will vote for, and why.
Answer Honestly
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Post by Renny ~ Hillary Clinton on Sept 20, 2008 0:28:30 GMT -4
Well was that a reason why you decided to go after me in the final 5, or was there other reasons and If so what were they?No it was not, In the beggining I went kinda power crazy that I could read your confessionals, then i had to blame kathleen another alliance member, because I was trying to hide me being the spy, that worked to a degree. The only reason you left was because Me and Shadowz were gonna controll that vote and he wanted you out that round, Or else PG would be in your place right now. I liked your company and although I diddnt want you out, I knew you were a threat so I went with it. Hope that helps hun.
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Post by Renny ~ Hillary Clinton on Sept 20, 2008 0:42:00 GMT -4
Why shouldnt u win and give specific reasons?
I shouldnt Win Because I let my Alliance with Brit and Eliza crumble by voting Brit out I also shouldnt win because I wasnt loyal to shadowz in the end. And Also, Maybe I could be considered too quiet.
Tell me what your strategy was throughout this game, and who your allies were
Allies: Brit541541 and Eliza, Shadowz Kind've Allies: Mvonneuman and Kathleen
My Strategy throughout this game was to play low key, but do my best in challenges and to make strong alliances. I also tryed my best to vote out the big threats like Michael Crazy James and Christian, There were other threats, but I hadnt talked to them.
Were you in anyway dishonest or misleading to anyone in the game? What happened?
Yes,I lied to Brit541541 when she was voted out, I lied to Mvonneumann about some things at the beggining of the game, I also lied some to PG, but they were all little things.
Rank the jury, and tell me who do you think each of us will vote for, and why.
Based On Gameplay 1.Kathleen, You were a HUGE target, that I couldnt get rid of easily, so I befriended you and tryed my hardest to win the last immunity so I couldmake sure you were on the jury. 2.Shadowz, You were very UTR but a good player who was always honest and was good at challenges and people. 3.Mvonneumann, You were the Leader of Cauto, Had it not been for Shadow having the smarts and wanting you gone, you would be here probably. 4.Michaelnsync, Diddnt know your stratgey, but you were a huge threat, well liked, and had good immunity scores, and wins. 5.Eliza, You would be placed higher on the list, but without me you had little stratgey for the reason that I called all the shots. 6.Christian, You could have been a force to reckon with in this game, had you not been at a disadvantage 7.Crazy James, Diddnt know you too well, just knew you were good at challenges 8.Elizabeth, Wasnt Completly Active, But from what I know was in good with lots of people. 9.Brit541541, She was my main alliance, but she was worthless without me and Eliza.
Votes: Me: Eliza,Brit541541,Crazy James,Shadowz,Kathleen PG: Mvonneumann,Christian,Michaelnsync,Elizabeth
You never know though...
Hoped this helped
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Post by mvonneumann (Linden Ashbey) on Sept 20, 2008 6:00:21 GMT -4
well Micheal make my question look dumb lol
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Post by Crazy James on Sept 20, 2008 6:50:00 GMT -4
Ok adies, I have a couple individual questions for each of you:
FOR BOTH TO ANSWER
1) Pick a number between 1 and 100 that describe a deail of your time in this game. Explain its importance in the game.
FOR RENNY ONLY TO ANSWER
1) You were a spy. Period. You had a bigger advantage then ALL of us, excluding Eliza. Because of this, 'm debating voting for you or not. Even though you a VERY BIG advantage, WHY should i cast my vote for you?
2) At the beginning, I saw you as an inactive. Your telling everybody things about Shadowz and how he was UTR. But what about you? I RARELY saw you on until the merge.
3) Explain in your own words what you think to be Under the Radar means.
FOR PEIH-GEE ONLY TO ANSWER
1) If you had the opportunity to choose one jury member to bring back into the game RIGHT NOW, who would that be?
2) Why should I NOT vote for?
Thats all for now, Good luck!
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Post by Taylor Swift (aka: kathleen) on Sept 20, 2008 8:27:00 GMT -4
ok i have one question, now that you have said why you shouldn't win i want you both to tell me why you should win? and for only Renny if i could have been brought tothe final 2 with you would you take me or not ? why or why not? for PG and Renny you both played a good game, what would you say was your biggest mistake or flaw?
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Post by Shadowz on Sept 20, 2008 8:53:37 GMT -4
To both of you: In the beginning of this game.. how far did you think that you should make it in this game? If you had to switch your F2 place with someone else from the game, who would that be? and why? Good luck!
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Sept 20, 2008 19:31:12 GMT -4
My Opening Statment:
I'm honored to have played this game with all of you. It's been a blast! I'm amazed and grateful to have made it to the end. I feel that I played a loyal, honest, and straightforward game. Hopefully, through the answers I provide to your questions, I can convince you that I played the better overall game.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Sept 20, 2008 19:32:27 GMT -4
To mvonneumann/Max:
Like you said, I played a fairly honest game and fortunately found myself in a good enough position to continue being honest most of the time. There were only two distinct lies I remember telling.
One was when Eliza went around trying to form this all-girl alliance with me, Kathleen, and Renny. Although I never agreed with this idea because of my loyalty to old Cauto, I told Eliza that I was open to it to keep her off-guard--to get on her good side and not make her want to target me. By this time, I had a very strong feeling that Eliza was a spy.
The second lie I told was again to Eliza, and also to Renny, before the F7 double elimination tribal council. They said they wanted to vote off Liz and Shadowz. I told them I would do the same, but I really voted Liz and Eliza. Again, I just didn't want to tell Eliza I was voting for her because as a spy, she had a tendency of stirring the pot.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Sept 20, 2008 19:33:43 GMT -4
To michaelnsync:
Reasons why I shouldn't win depend on what you're looking for in a good player. Here are some possible reasons:
1) I played it safe by sticking with my old tribe despite having strong players like Max and Kathleen who could very well beat me if they were in the final two. (This would only apply if you're the type of juror who doesn't think loyalty is too important and that a good player should be aggressive.)
2) I didn't give my 100% in the earlier post-merge immunity challenges, but this was on purpose because I didn't want to be seen as a huge threat like Michael was. I always participated, however, and put in a decent effort to show I was active.
3) There was one tribal council where I was thrown off. That was the one where Crazy James was voted off. I didn't want him to go.
My strategy in the tribal stage was to prove myself a valuable member of Cauto by contributing as much as I could. I wanted to keep my tribe strong, so we would have enough numbers when the merge came.
My strategy post-merge was to stay loyal to Cauto and for us to form a voting bloc that would take over the game. I tried to keep a balance--to appear fairly active, social, and part of the decision-making to show I was playing the game, while trying not to appear too threatening at the same time.
My allies were mainly the old Cauto members, namely Max, Shadowz, and Kathleen. To an extent, I assumed Renny was an ally voting with us until I noticed she was with Eliza.
I explained the lies I told to the spies in my answer to Max's question.
1. mvonneumann - Very social, strategic, and had a great sense of how people were voting. 2. kathleen - Always on top of the game much like Max and was a major contender to win. 3. Shadowz - Rather low key, but had good alliances and managed to get Max eliminated. 4. michaelnsync - Excellent at challenges and seen as a huge threat to go on an immunity run. 5. Christian - Fiercely competitive who had a lot of potential, but got outnumbered. 6. Eliza - UTR at first, but at least attempted to stir things up with the all-girl alliance idea. 7. Crazy James - Very competitive back in Cauto and probably seen as a threat once the merge came. 8. Elizabeth - Didn't seem too active, but she at least made final seven. 9. brit541541 - Didn't get to know her at all.
Votes for Peih-Gee: mvonneumann, kathleen, michaelnsync, Christian, Crazy James, Elizabeth Votes for Renny: Shadowz, Eliza, brit541541
I believe the first five people I listed will vote for me based on better gameplay instead of being UTR. I didn't really have contact with Liz, but she didn't seem close to Eliza either. So I'll just assume Liz will vote for me for perceiving me as the visibly better player.
I am less sure of how Shadowz, Eliza, and Brit will vote, but their alliance with Renny might give her an edge over me.
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Post by Crazy James on Sept 20, 2008 20:27:02 GMT -4
WHAT ABOUT MY QUESTION!!!! ?
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Sept 20, 2008 21:11:47 GMT -4
To Crazy James:
I pick the number 9. With Christian successfully eliminated, the final nine was around the time when I realized that the Cautos were likely to take over the game and that I had a legitimate chance to make it to the end. However, there was some disorganization in the F9 tribal council votes when Brit was voted off. This was a sign that I needed to work harder in organizing the Cautos and keeping in mind that there were still spies who had their own agenda. I helped ensure that Michael, Eliza, and Elizabeth were voted off next.
The number 9 was also significant because I always kept in mind that there were nine jurors who I had to face if I made it to the end. It was important to me that I present a respectable game to these jurors.
I would choose Max simply because he played a commendable game and deserved to make it to the end, even if it means that I would have tougher competition. The best player deserves to win, and if the jury feels that he would have deserved it more than me, then more power to him.
I'm not sure if this question was meant to say why you shouldn't vote for me or why you shouldn't vote for Renny. Essentially, you shouldn't vote for me if you truly believe that Renny played a better overall game. But in my opinion, you shouldn't vote for Renny because she was relatively UTR and had the advantage of being a spy which I didn't.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Sept 20, 2008 21:12:21 GMT -4
To kathleen:
I should win this game because I believe my gameplay had the perfect balance of dedication, strategy, loyalty, honesty, challenge competence, and adapting to keep myself in a good position. I made my presence known as a player from beginning to end of the game. Renny saying that she took me to the final two because she didn't want an easy win already speaks volumes that I played a respectable game.
My biggest flaw was maybe being too loyal. My loyalty to Max probably would have caused me to take him to the final two if I could, even if it meant I would have a harder time winning. I was a bit more distant with Shadowz, but my loyalty to him made it difficult for me to anticipate that he wasn't being truthful to me and was trying to eliminate Max.
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