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Post by Jason/Mrs. Butterworth on Oct 23, 2008 19:20:38 GMT -4
Well congrats to all 3 of you. This was a hard fought game and somehow the 3 of you ended up here.
So here's my question...Why should I vote for any of you?
Max, you didn't even show up for the final challenge, because you were so cocky that your alliance would prevail. Though that is the worst you have done.
Wowi and James...let me be honest. I am not a bitter player, and what you did was fine, but I find both of you scummy and despicable. I am a new player here and you both totally took advantage of that and made me look stupid. Also, you lied at a point when you didn't need to. When we were in the live chat, and I saw my name come up as a vote, I asked you both if you lied to me, and you both said "Nope...vote is Max". At that point it was 100% obvious that one of you were lying, and then it became painfully clear that you both were lying. Why lie at that point when there's nothing I can do anyway? THAT was the move that was scummiest in my opinion.
So Wowi and James, the likeliehood of me giving you my vote is slim to none...I don't find that kind of gameplay admirable. However, if you can convince me that you deserved it I might change my mind. How long did you have the plan in place to get rid of me? How much shit did you talk about me behind my back?
Max, in addition to why I should get your vote, I would like to know how involved in this little scheme you were.
Good luck, I am rooting for Max at this point.
Jason
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Post by wowi on Oct 23, 2008 19:33:30 GMT -4
Jason, why did I lie to you, simple we were in live chat as you said....
And if I told you I was voting for you, you would of tried to get to C.J. and tried to change his vote...
And yes I didn't have full confidence that C.J. would vote for you, so I had to lie....
And when did I start to put you on the radar, was when I saved Christan that time, wasn't that the time I nearly left.....
Still not sure if you voted for me or not that time coz you didn't say yay or nay to me about that....And I asked C.J if he voted for me and he said yes, because he was trying to get katie's vote.
So who should be upset here.....Me.....coz I almost left because someone of you considered me a strong threat and almost took me out.....And guess what I could only trust Christan and Max from then onwards.
That is when I had to make a decision who I would like gone, you or C.J.....
And I chose you....simply because you would of gotten most of the jury votes.
And so I made plan or thingy not sure what to call it. I would tell C.J that I am not good at live challenges and in so doing letting him know that I have to trust him...FULLY.
Because after all we were in an alliance together from the start.
And yes I was risking everything.
And isn't that part of the game, take out your strongest competitor....
OHHH you didn't use "I'm new here" routine.....guess what Jason, so am I....check the date when I registered.
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Post by wowi on Oct 23, 2008 20:02:01 GMT -4
Ohhh I am really getting incensed here....
What if I left that time Katie left...huh.
What would you have told ME....
OHHH....
You would of said it's part of the game....that is what you would of told me....
I'm really upset now, thinking about it.
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Post by Crazy James on Oct 23, 2008 20:04:24 GMT -4
Well Jason. Here's my answer for your questions: We originally never really targeted you. We were trying to use your vote until the end. You were the odd one out. Its not that we didn't like you, its that we wanted our allaince in the F3 and that was the only way it could happen, by lieing to you. Do I regret it, hell yeah! I wish you could have stayed, honestly, but i didn't want to betray my original alliance members. As for you being new here and you saying we took advantage of that: If i did, i didn't mean to. I played with you like i would have any other. You were one of the few left who i felt was strong enough to stay, but would get cut because of a simple alliance. Its just how it turned out. If you weren't here, it would have been just a different contestant Also, I wasn't trying to make it seen that bad. We could have sent you packing 2 rounds earlier, but we didn't because we (or at least I) felt it was worth it, keeping you around longer. At one point, maybe 2 rounds earlier, once i had talked to you, I felt sorry for you because i knew what would eventually happen in the end (you being voted out) and that sucked. With 4 rounds left i was just about to burst and tell you and maybe try to save you. But i felt that it would be better to stick to original, early alliances then to ones that came later in the game. I hope that answers your questions Jason ADDITION : Oh, and we never talked s*** about you. We appreciated your gameplay and didn't say really anything other then you had to go before F3 because we knew youd probably get a lot of jury votes...
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Post by wowi on Oct 23, 2008 21:33:29 GMT -4
Ohhh and another thing, where were you and C.J. when you knew that some people were going to be voting for me that time I handed my immunity over to Christan, huh
Why didn't either of you come to me and say, don't do that because if you hand your immunity over to Christan they are all going to be voting for you....
Not a BLOODY PEEP OUT OF EITHER OF YOU....
Who betrayed who first.
I got here in the f3, on my own merits and "bloody luck"...
just had to put that last bit in, coz I did have a lot of luck....coz what would of happen if I didn't win that second challenge....huh
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Post by wowi on Oct 23, 2008 22:31:21 GMT -4
In fact, no-one who was in the know told me that I could be leaving, not no-one.
Not you Jason
Or you C.J
Or even you Max.....
So did I in fact have an alliance at all.
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Post by wowi on Oct 24, 2008 1:30:51 GMT -4
Jason can I ask you a question....
Just say at Tribal 10, instead of Katie leaving and Christan left who would of been next to go at Tribal 11....
Since you were in the majority position...
Would it have been Max, C.J. or me.
And yeah I saw it that is why I targeted you....you would of been sitting pretty.
Considering you had alliances with everyone....Katie, C.J, Max and myself....
I had a feeling it would of been me or Max
You were an alliance whore there for awhile, weren't you....hehe
I find that last sentence quiet funny......
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Post by mvonneumann (Linden Ashbey) on Oct 24, 2008 1:41:50 GMT -4
lol, I knew me not being at the final tribal was gonna come up lol, anyways yeah ther reason why I wasnt there Is cuz down here in the southeren hemisphere I was at school at the time, not because I was cocky, When I saw you were voted out it took me by complete suprise and I had no clue as to what was going down.
So yeah, when I realized I wasnt gonna be at the challange I pretty much assumed I was dead so I had no part in you getting the boot, I had thought wowi would vote for james, and u and James would vote for me, while I would get a self vote.
if you do vote me thanks and I hope I answer your question believeably although that is the truth.
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Post by Crazy James on Oct 24, 2008 6:20:06 GMT -4
Ohhh and another thing, where were you and C.J. when you knew that some people were going to be voting for me that time I handed my immunity over to Christan, huh Why didn't either of you come to me and say, don't do that because if you hand your immunity over to Christan they are all going to be voting for you.... Not a BLOODY PEEP OUT OF EITHER OF YOU.... Who betrayed who first. I got here in the f3, on my own merits and "bloody luck"... just had to put that last bit in, coz I did have a lot of luck....coz what would of happen if I didn't win that second challenge....huh If you took a look at some board dates you'd see that that was when i went on vacation
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Post by Jason/Mrs. Butterworth on Oct 24, 2008 14:22:13 GMT -4
Thank you all of you.
James and Max you were composed and eloquent in your responses. Wowi you are a psychopath and I will address your questions later, jesus.
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Post by Jason/Mrs. Butterworth on Oct 24, 2008 14:24:50 GMT -4
Here is the first time I will try and figure out what your crazy babbling means... Ohhh I am really getting incensed here.... What if I left that time Katie left...huh. What would you have told ME.... OHHH.... You would of said it's part of the game....that is what you would of told me.... I'm really upset now, thinking about it. I have no idea what you are talking about here. I didn't vote for you, nor would I have, we were in an alliance. Had you gone in this vote I would have told you I'm sorry because I didn't think you were going nor would have I voted for you. I am completely baffled how you are getting pissed at me for something that hypothetically could have happened...AND something that I had NOTHING TO DO WITH. Everytime I voted in this game it was to save your ass, because lets face it your ass was talked about a lot but NO I was there refusing to get rid of you and casting votes to save you. So get off your high horse, your crazy crazy high horse.
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Post by Jason/Mrs. Butterworth on Oct 24, 2008 14:30:29 GMT -4
Take 2. Ohhh and another thing, where were you and C.J. when you knew that some people were going to be voting for me that time I handed my immunity over to Christan, huh Why didn't either of you come to me and say, don't do that because if you hand your immunity over to Christan they are all going to be voting for you.... Not a BLOODY PEEP OUT OF EITHER OF YOU.... Who betrayed who first. I got here in the f3, on my own merits and "bloody luck"... just had to put that last bit in, coz I did have a lot of luck....coz what would of happen if I didn't win that second challenge....huh First off, what did I do? I DIDN'T VOTE FOR YOU. THAT'S WHAT I DID. Ugh, are you being serious here? And honestly I did NOT hear your name, and why would I tell you not to use your idol. IF you wanted to be crazy enough to give it to Christian, then that's your perogative Wowi. I am not going to tell you how to play your game. You clearly chose sides there and didn't want Christian gone for whatever crazy reason. I did not control your game. I had no idea what was going on that round...your cryptic message to me said please don't vote Christian or I will have to give the idol to him, please vote for Katie. So guess what I did? WHAT YOU ASKED. Look I am done answering your crazy questions. I never once betrayed you this entire game, in fact I voted people out that were close to me just to save your ass. The fact of the matter is that you had no problem pulling out a big shiny knife and plunging it directly into my back and you even admitted that night on AIM that you were being a B word and a C word. So don't try and turn this around on me now and how I have let you down in this game and how you should be pissed too. Get over it. And I got the impression that this was not your first game here, you seemed to know the habits of everyone in the game, so that's all I meant by "being new". I did not know a thing about a soul here other than our host Chad. You will not be getting my vote, I just want to continue to be honest with you. Jason
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Post by wowi on Oct 24, 2008 21:29:06 GMT -4
You can spin it how ever you like Jason.....
but if you know someone is going to be voting for me and YOU knew about it, don't you think you should of informed me...
So I could of tried to protected myself....
So yeah, that is betrayal....
What if James and the other person managed to get someone to flip and voted for me also....And you KNEW about it....And you didn't tell me....HUH!!!
Jason because you had certain knowledge and decided to keep it to yourself....
Now that is betrayal...
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Post by wowi on Oct 24, 2008 21:36:30 GMT -4
Did you tell your friend that I was voting for them, you should of Jason....
So they could try to save themselves...
And if you didn't, you should of....
And if had certain knowledge early on in the game if someone was going to be voting for you...I would of told you Jason.....coz that is what alliance buds do....
Protect your alliance....
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Post by Crazy James on Oct 24, 2008 21:53:00 GMT -4
FYI Wowi, I'm continously telling everyone AND YOU!!!!
You sat that James and the other person tryed to get someone to flip... I CONTINOUSLY tell you, I wasn't trying tosend you home! UGGGHHH. You say itas all right and act like my friend and alliance member until we get to the Finals, and thats when you start lieing...
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