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Post by Renny ~ Hillary Clinton on Sept 13, 2009 15:00:38 GMT -4
(Tee hee, Caucus)
So from what I am reading into from the jury lounge, I am the swing vote as two hate Gaga and two are Gaga's friends.
I want to vote for who played the best game for the cards they were dealt. I wanted this final two to happen because you two played the best games.
My vote is completly up for grabs as I try to vote for who played the best game instead of who I was friends with.
So I have a few questions.
Both of you:
Please Rank the jurors and your final two opponent 1-6 based on strategy. Second Compare us to a survivor player. Lastly, what did you do better/worse than your opponent?
I know its cliche but I like to see what people think of the game I played and if we have the same opinions on others.
Gaga:
I really thought you played this game well as people knew you were lying at most times, but we didn't care. You floated under the radar until you had power and you ran with it well. I think you played a better game than Conan but you also had friends coming into the game.
Do you think you would still be in the finals without having 2 friends in the game playing with you?
Do you really think that you controlled every vote from Sarah onwards?
Do you realize that most everyone knew you were lying and that you were shady? I like to reward players who can actually lie to my face and me not find out, however you were a bad liar.
Conan:
You were my pal, a really cool person who I could really understand well. You played the game well until the final 5 when you had no options, however I was there last season when I won 6 immunities in a row to get to the finals, so I know how you are feeling. You were a good strategic player whether people don't realize it or not.
From how we talked, at a few times in this game I could tell you were thinking of getting me out of the game, why didn't you?
Did you do anything in this game that I didn't know about?
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 13, 2009 17:56:10 GMT -4
Please Rank the jurors and your final two opponent 1-6 based on strategy. Let's see I'll do this with 1 being the best at strategy and 6 being the worst.
6. Terry - I've never seen someone go from calling the shots to having everyone against him so quickly. 5. Conan - I know Conan played a great game overall but it was all perserverance and challenge work, even he will admit that (see his opening speech). I always knew where his vote was going because he was so honest all the time. And sure he is in the finals while being honest, but it was certainly not his strategy that got him here. 4. Ozzy - Ozzy was great at not getting voted out. He was a huge target but made it to the final 4. That just shows how great of a strategical player he is. 3. Britney - Britney was a huge threat to me because she was such a wild card. Britney was great at doing what benefited her. If it was swapping alliances, so be it. 2. Hillary - Hillary, you were by far my biggest threat in the game. Everyone knows you are amazing in challenges but your strategy was also superb. You just have characteristics and personality of a leader which makes it so easy for you to be the top dog in an alliance. 1. Lex - Lex played the best strategical game this season other than me. He understood the importance of looking out for himself as well as looking out for his numbers. He also realized that a lot of times risks have to be taken in this game. Lex was awesome.
I hope you all appreciate my honesty. This is an opinionated question, but I call em like I see em so...
Second Compare us to a survivor player.
Terry - Penner in Cook islands Britney - Eliza in Vanuatu Hillary - Yul in Cook Conan - Matthew in Amazon Ozzy - Fairplay in Pearl Lex - Stephen in Tocantins Myself - Todd in China(just for fun)
Lastly, what did you do better/worse than your opponent? I think this one is simple. I played a better strategical game than Conan, and I did way worse in the challenges.
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 13, 2009 18:10:54 GMT -4
I really thought you played this game well as people knew you were lying at most times, but we diddn't care. You floated under the radar until you had power and you ran with it well. I think you played a better game than Conan but you also had friends coming into the game.
Thank you very much. Very fair evaluation.
Do you think you would still be in the finals without having 2 friends in the game playing with you? Most likely yes. Just because someone is your friend doesn't make them easier to pursuade when their neck is on the line. So had Lex and Ozzy been complete strangers to me before this game I'm pretty sure they still would have followed me. Not because we are mad tight, just because my strategy was good and the moves I pitched were excellent. Also, I'd like to point out that not everyone could keep their friends close like I did. This is Survivor and it could've been very easy for anyone to turn their friends into enemies, which I succeeded in not doing.
Do you really think that you controlled every vote from Sarah onwards? If I didn't control the vote then I was very influential in making the vote go that way. I would like to point out that Billy Joel was the last person who got voted out that my vote wasn't going towards. So if everyone that I voted for was the one who left then how could my influence not be huge? So I might not have controlled the fellow players but I did control the situation. At least well enough to get the person out that I wanted out.
Do you realize that most everyone knew you were lying and that you were shady? I like to reward players who can actually lie to my face and me not find out, however you were a bad liar. Um no I didn't realize that you all knew I was shady, but to be honest, while the game was going on I didn't care if you all knew I was shady. All I cared about is that you guys didn't know what I was doing and didn't think I was strategically polished enough to be a threat. So sure you guys might have known I was lying but you still had no idea what my intentions were or where my vote was going. I flew under the radar well enough to keep the target off my back until it didn't matter whether it was or not.
Thank you for the great questions Hillary :-)
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Post by AJ on Sept 13, 2009 18:53:20 GMT -4
Please Rank the jurors and your final two opponent 1-6 based on strategy.
Great questions. Here's my ranking:
6. Ozzy. He did an excellent job in not getting voted out until the end, but I don't feel he was ever in a position where he could win the game. 5. Terry. The tide turned against him quickly, but at least he took the initiative and was a leader. That counts for something in my book. 4. Lady Gaga. The difference between Lex's ranking and Lady Gaga's is the fact that Lex didn't seem to make many enemies. Lady Gaga made several, and like you said, everyone was aware that she was being deceitful. 3. Britney. Based mostly on the fact that I never really knew what she was thinking, which is a good thing is this game. 2. Hillary. Because like Terry you were a leader, but you also played a fantastic social game and did well in the challenges. I think that you're very well-rounded. 1. Lex. He played a great game, all-around.
Second Compare us to a survivor player.
Ozzy - Dreamz from Fiji. Lots of alliances, difficult to know what he was really thinking, but had a tough time winning. Terry - John C. from Marquesas. I smart strategic player who unfortunately didn't realize that the game was changing around him. Lady Gaga - Twila from Vanuatu. Did very well, but told lies and burned bridges getting there. Britney - Erinn from Tocantins. Kind of an enigma, but definitely a smart player who knew what was going on. Hillary - Stephenie from Palau/Guatemala. A teriffic all-around player, and a natural leader. Lex - Rob C. from The Amazon. Zigged when he should have zigged, zagged when he should have zagged... made smart decisions.
Lastly, what did you do better/worse than your opponent?
I think that there are three basic things I did better than Lady Gaga. First, like I've already said, I clearly worked harder to get where I am than she did. I won three key challenges in a row when my butt was on the line. Second, I was better at adapting to my surroundings. I knew no one going into the game, whereas Lady Gaga and some of the other players had friends that they could work with in a pinch. Third, I played a better social game. Here at the end of the game, I'm in the exact same position as Lady Gaga, except I didn't have to betray my closest allies, lie to everyone, or ultimately vote out one of my friends (like Lady Gaga did to Ozzy).
Edited to fix a typo.
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Post by AJ on Sept 13, 2009 19:04:09 GMT -4
From how we talked, at a few times in this game I could tell you were thinking of getting me out of the game, why didn't you? Haha... that's really perceptive. Yeah, it definitely occured to me a few times. Any time I considered trying to get you out it was because I didn't relish the possibility of facing you in the Final Two, because you're such a strong player and had lots of friends. Ultimately I decided not to do it, though, because I felt that you were mostly trustworthy and that you made a better ally than some of the other players, many of whom were totally untrustworthy. And to be totally honest, the fact that I liked you and Sarah personally certainly made my decision easier. Did you do anything in this game that I didn't know about? I ultimately made the decision that you were going to be the one person I was completely open with, so there wasn't really anything that I did that you didn't know about. There were, however, some ideas that I considered or possibilities that were open to me that I don't think you really knew about. For instance, I was really, really close to siding with Terry and Ozzy and voting out Sarah. For the reasons I said in the last question, I ultimately decided to stick with you and Sarah, but there were certainly other possibilities out there for me. Thanks for the great questions, Hillary! Edited to fix a typo.
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 14, 2009 0:53:00 GMT -4
Hey Hillary just to let you know Gaga threw you udner the bus so many times i have lost count of the number of times she told me that you needed you go and the vote needed to be for you cause otherwise you would of ran this game. dont have Gaga seem so innocent in your eyes she a devil in disguise
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 14, 2009 1:47:54 GMT -4
Britney is absolutely right. I wanted you gone for pretty much the whole game. That way I could be here ;-)
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