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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 13, 2009 17:25:03 GMT -4
Lady Gaga
I just have a few questions for you 1. I would like to know why you think it is allowed for you to double cross people but when other people do it you are totally against it and it is shown to me like only you can double cross someone and no one else, like there was a mysterious power you had to double cross people that no one else had. The reason im bringing this up is because you questioned me about double crossing you. when ozzy had no idea bout the final 4 alliance me you lex and ozzy had. right there you double crossed me cause ozzy had no idea bout the alliance. In the instance of that TC vote you couldnt not stand the fact that i voted the other way.
2. You said once this game is over you will tell me your email so heres your chance to tell me it?
3. I would like to give you a scenerio. You didnt know this but i held the Trump card in case you forgot what it does its purpose is to win in a tiebreaker vote. If i stuck with my gut and voted out Ozzy at that tribal that I left the vote would of been 3-3 then with my trump card i would of stayed and ozzy would have left. If that happened I would like to know what you would have done. reminder we would then be in Final 5 (Me, You, Lex, Conan, Hillary). Keep in mind i would of then known that the 3 of you tried to get me out. From this i would like to know the following a. Order of taking people out b. How you would of reacted to losing ozzy? c. How and what you would of you told me for trying to get rid of me and not going with the original plan you told me? d. How it would of effected your game? e. What would of you done with me?
4. When i left i said that if anyones takes Lady Gaga to the finals that they will get my vote automactically. I wanna know if you believe im going to stick to my word and give Conan my vote no matter what.
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 13, 2009 17:27:53 GMT -4
Conan 1. When i left i said that if anyones takes Lady Gaga to the finals that they will get my vote automactically. I wanna know if you believe im going to stick to my word and give you my vote no matter what.
2. Was what i said when i left that TC effect your decision when choosing who to take to the finals?
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 13, 2009 18:33:08 GMT -4
1. I would like to know why you think it is allowed for you to double cross people but when other people do it you are totally against it and it is shown to me like only you can double cross someone and no one else, like there was a mysterious power you had to double cross people that no one else had. The reason im bringing this up is because you questioned me about double crossing you. when ozzy had no idea bout the final 4 alliance me you lex and ozzy had. right there you double crossed me cause ozzy had no idea bout the alliance. In the instance of that TC vote you couldnt not stand the fact that i voted the other way.
You're right, I couldn't stand the fact that you voted for Billy after you and I had bonded. I thought you would have trusted me enough to vote with me post merge. That is why I felt like you double crossed me: because you said you trusted me and wanted to make the final four with me, yet you didn't trust me enough to vote with me at the final 9. The only reason Ozzy didn't know about my intention to include you into our alliance is because we lost contact quite a few times throughout this game because the time zone difference and we usually only speak on msn messenger. You can ask Lex or Billy though. I mentioned including you to both of them.
2. You said once this game is over you will tell me your email so heres your chance to tell me it?
nickthehick11@msn.com I get on msn messenger quite a bit.
3. I would like to give you a scenerio. You didnt know this but i held the Trump card in case you forgot what it does its purpose is to win in a tiebreaker vote. If i stuck with my gut and voted out Ozzy at that tribal that I left the vote would of been 3-3 then with my trump card i would of stayed and ozzy would have left. If that happened I would like to know what you would have done. reminder we would then be in Final 5 (Me, You, Lex, Conan, Hillary). Keep in mind i would of then known that the 3 of you tried to get me out. From this i would like to know the following a. Order of taking people out
Hillary, Conan, Lex, me and you final 2 Everyone other than me was such a physical threat it would have been crazy for us not to gun for them.
b. How you would of reacted to losing ozzy?
Of course, I would have been a little bummed because Ozzy is my friend. But I would have mostly reacted with respect. It would have been such a great read and strategical move on your part to 1) take out one of my biggest allies and 2) establish yourself in this game as a power player and 3) show that you didn't buy mine or anyone else's bullshit.
c. How and what you would of you told me for trying to get rid of me and not going with the original plan you told me?
I would have for once been honest in this game with someone other than Lex or Ozzy. This is probably exactly what I would have said: "I'm really sorry I had to gun for you last tribal. It would have just been very poor strategy for me not to. Lex and Ozzy are my closest allies and it had to be either you, me, or one of them. I had to try to deceive you so I could keep them and gain control of this game. I admit it was a dirty move, but I hope you can get over it so we can take out the 2 strongest players left in this game. Sorry again.
Gaga"
d. How it would of effected your game?
It wouldn't have effected my strategy any. I would have still tried to get out Hillary and Conan ASAP as I did this time. The only difference is Ozzy would have been replaced by you.
e. What would of you done with me?
I would have tried to be allies with you. Why wouldn't I try to be close to someone who made moves like that? I'd ride your coattails to the end if I had that opportunity. Not to mention you would've been a cool ally anyways because you're a nice person to talk to.
4. When i left i said that if anyones takes Lady Gaga to the finals that they will get my vote automactically. I wanna know if you believe im going to stick to my word and give Conan my vote no matter what.
I don't think you will stick to that word, not because you are a liar or anything, but because that would be a bitter way to vote. I think you are smart and survivor savvy enough to realize that I played a better game than Conan. I understand you're angry as you should be, but just don't forget how well I played.
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 13, 2009 19:14:48 GMT -4
For Lady Gaga 1 more question
I want to know why you didnt just tell me that you had very little contact with ozzy therefore he might not of known. Also i explained to you about the vote and why i did it. I thought once that was done we were all in the clear and set back to go into the Final 4 together. Then the plate smash immunity challenges comes up and I'm Lex's first target. so now im in a position where ozzy had no idea about an alliance we had, Lex targetted me first in the plate smash so this raised suspusions even more because it seemed like the alliance u told me could of been BS, ozzy knowing nothing of the alliance, and lex targetting me first of everyone.
So from all this stuff i gathered nothing clicked and i felt somethign was wrong about it.
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Post by AJ on Sept 13, 2009 19:14:53 GMT -4
Conan 1. When i left i said that if anyones takes Lady Gaga to the finals that they will get my vote automactically. I wanna know if you believe im going to stick to my word and give you my vote no matter what.
Obviously I can't say for sure who you will decide to vote for, but generally I think that you're pretty trustworthy and it was clear that you had some issues with how Lady Gaga played the game. I think that there's a pretty good chance you'll give me your vote, and I hope you do it because I played a better overall game than Lady Gaga.
2. Was what i said when i left that TC effect your decision when choosing who to take to the finals?
There were lots of reasons why I chose to take Lady Gaga, and what you said at TC was definitely one of them.
Thanks, Britney! I hope that covers everything.
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 13, 2009 19:19:44 GMT -4
Extra question for Conan
Did you ever think that i could of said that on purpose and use some reverse physciology on you so you would take her?
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 13, 2009 19:33:47 GMT -4
I want to know why you didnt just tell me that you had very little contact with ozzy therefore he might not of known. Also i explained to you about the vote and why i did it. I thought once that was done we were all in the clear and set back to go into the Final 4 together. Then the plate smash immunity challenges comes up and I'm Lex's first target. so now im in a position where ozzy had no idea about an alliance we had, Lex targetted me first in the plate smash so this raised suspusions even more because it seemed like the alliance u told me could of been BS, ozzy knowing nothing of the alliance, and lex targetting me first of everyone.
As a rule of thumb in challenges like that Lex and I always completely randomize whose plate we smash to help make any alliances we have more ambigious. And the only reason I didn't approach you about the whole ozzy situation is because I was aware of how social Hillary was and I figured there was no use. I figured you were already embedded in another final 4 alliance and it would only make me vulnerable to work things out with you. I was aware of how good a player you are and how dangerous it would have been for me to be vulnerable to you so I had to stay away from that. At this point I was more intimidated by your social ties than confident of my ability to build and maintain alliances. I wish I could have recovered our final 4 alliance but then again it would have made it only that much harder when one of us 4 had to go.
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Post by AJ on Sept 13, 2009 19:40:46 GMT -4
Extra question for Conan
Did you ever think that i could of said that on purpose and use some reverse physciology on you so you would take her?
Yeah, that definitely occurred to me, but I could only really base my decision on the information at hand. There were lots of other reasons to vote out Lex, so it just seemed like the right choice.
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Post by michaelnsync on Sept 13, 2009 20:14:52 GMT -4
One last question to Both of you
Had i not left the TC i did leave and Ozzy left, Do you believe the Final 2 would of been the same or do you think it would of been different? If the same Why? If Different who would be in the Final 2 and why them 2?
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Post by AJ on Sept 13, 2009 20:24:28 GMT -4
Had i not left the TC i did leave and Ozzy left, Do you believe the Final 2 would of been the same or do you think it would of been different? If the same Why? If Different who would be in the Final 2 and why them 2?
I think that it would have been completely different. You would have known that Lex and Lady Gaga voted for you, so hopefully you, me and Hillary would have been able to vote them out and we would have been the Final 3. The Final 2 would have depended on who won the last immunity challange. If I had won the challange, there's a really good chance that I would have taken you and voted out Hillary because, like I said in Hillarys thread, I was pretty worried about going to the Final 2 with her.
Edited to fix a typo.
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Post by kdub2cool on Sept 13, 2009 20:29:25 GMT -4
see britney my guess was right (sorry guys for interupting)
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 13, 2009 20:50:31 GMT -4
One last question to Both of you Had i not left the TC i did leave and Ozzy left, Do you believe the Final 2 would of been the same or do you think it would of been different? If the same Why? If Different who would be in the Final 2 and why them 2? I think the final 2 would have been solely relying on your shoulders. You would have been the swing vote and you could have either joined me and lex to take out the challenge threats or joined them to take out me and lex. My best guess is that Conan would still be here b/c he made it here through immunity challenges, and either you or I would be here based on which decision you made. If you sided with me and lex, conan probably still would have taken me because of my bad boy persona and all the deception I used. If you sided with him and Hill you would probabaly be here as Conan stated above. Had you beaten Conan in an immunity challenge, it could easily be you with whomever you had chosen.
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