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Post by nash on Sept 14, 2009 12:49:56 GMT -4
Conan,
Congratulations for winning the Final 4 and 3 ICs. I have what I need from Wolf so it's only fair that I get information from you too, to help me decide who to vote. Now my questions:
1. You mentioned that I was a good strategic player, even placing me number 1 on your list. I find that strange because we barely spoke to each other. I sent PMs but you never replied back. Was there anyone from this game who has been feeding you information or was it a feeble attempt to get my vote?
2. You and wolfie are the better players in this game because you outwitted, outlasted and outplayed us all. But I want to see things in better perspective. Besides winning the last 2 Ics, what other actions did you do to change the outcome of the game and bring you to the final 2?
3. Did you think luck was a major part of why you are where you are now?
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Post by nash on Sept 14, 2009 12:51:48 GMT -4
Wolf, First of all, this supposed friendship thing we have with you and kdub is a bit overstated. I could've easily backstabbed you if I had the chance. I even wrote in my diary that you were my greatest threat in this game. But I already promised that I'll keep our alliance safe the best I could and that I do not have the predeliction for breaking promises. It will only make matters worse, in this game and in real life. You were a complete mess during our Bastet days. For a while, I thought I made a mistake of "aligning" with you. You did not listen to me about Renny. You allied with the wrong people. You changed outer-alliance members too quick. You were so concentrated on securing the numbers. Well, this season proved once again that it's really not about numbers. 1. I don't believe you actually lied to me in this game. But almost everyone agrees that you have a bad reputation for lying. However, I know of one instance when I was never consulted: when you used the extra vote against Sarah. You never mentioned it to me. Why? 2. Let's backtrack a bit. When we were switched into 4 tribes, you sought my help because you were in danger. (You, Britney and Renny in one tribe). I risked my life by deleting my posts in the challenge just so my tribe would lose and your tribe gets immunity. Thinking about it now, all these times, I was protecting you and kdub more than myself. Cite as many instances as you'd like when you returned the favor. 3. I still believe that we orchestrated the voting, who to vote next, when and why. Even down to the final 4 where Conan already has immunity.My question is, how much of the decison-making was yours, how much was mine? (in percentage) 4. And lastly, compare yourself to me as a player.
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Post by Wolflikeme on Sept 14, 2009 13:48:11 GMT -4
First of all, this supposed friendship thing we have with you and kdub is a bit overstated. I could've easily backstabbed you if I had the chance. I even wrote in my diary that you were my greatest threat in this game. But I already promised that I'll keep our alliance safe the best I could and that I do not have the predeliction for breaking promises. It will only make matters worse, in this game and in real life.
Thank you, especially for that first sentence. That's what I've been trying to explain to these people.
You were a complete mess during our Bastet days. For a while, I thought I made a mistake of "aligning" with you. You did not listen to me about Renny. You allied with the wrong people. You changed outer-alliance members too quick. You were so concentrated on securing the numbers. Well, this season proved once again that it's really not about numbers.
You bring up a nice point right here. I wasn't at my sharpest early in the game, and I wasn't influential enough as a player to get out Renny quickly. It's not like I ignored your warning, I just didn't have enough pull at the time. And I was worried about securing the numbers, but when we finally merged I did have them but then Christian Bale lost his dare challenge so that was that.
1. I don't believe you actually lied to me in this game. But almost everyone agrees that you have a bad reputation for lying. However, I know of one instance when I was never consulted: when you used the extra vote against Sarah. You never mentioned it to me. Why?
Because it was a last second decision. I didn't exactly plan on doing it the whole time, but then my gut told me to so I did, and now here we are.
2. Let's backtrack a bit. When we were switched into 4 tribes, you sought my help because you were in danger. (You, Britney and Renny in one tribe). I risked my life by deleting my posts in the challenge just so my tribe would lose and your tribe gets immunity. Thinking about it now, all these times, I was protecting you and kdub more than myself. Cite as many instances as you'd like when you returned the favor.
I've also been trying to explain this point to everyone. It was much harder for you and I to make it this far than Conan because we were looking out for 3 people, not just one. But, I also feel like I was protecting you guys more than myself. I used my extra vote very early to give all 3 of us a better chance, not just put myself in a great position. At the final 6, I pulled the dirtiest move in my life to keep us all in the game. At the 4, I voted for kdub, which is something I never though I'd do, so you wouldn't go out unanimously.
3. I still believe that we orchestrated the voting, who to vote next, when and why. Even down to the final 4 where Conan already has immunity.My question is, how much of the decison-making was yours, how much was mine? (in percentage)
60 me - 40 you
4. And lastly, compare yourself to me as a player
I think we are very similar players. You're a little better at challenges, and I'm a little better at strategy, yet we had very similar intentions. I'd say the biggest difference in you and I as players is that I took more of the wrap than you. You are more trustworthy, and I'm more devious. We both rock though!
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Post by AJ on Sept 14, 2009 17:22:46 GMT -4
1. You mentioned that I was a good strategic player, even placing me number 1 on your list. I find that strange because we barely spoke to each other. I sent PMs but you never replied back. Was there anyone from this game who has been feeding you information or was it a feeble attempt to get my vote?
I didn't need to talk to you much to figure out that you were a good strategic player... it's a pretty simple matter of seeing who you voted for. You always voted for the right person and you did it without burning bridges like Lady Gaga. Obviously I heard various things about you throughout the game from different people, but my respect for your game mostly comes from observation on my part. And as for placing you at Number 1 on my ranking, it clearly wasn't an attempt to get your vote... I've never had any illusion that getting your vote is a realistic possibility. I put you at Number 1 because I think that of all the jurors, you played the best game. Period.
2. You and wolfie are the better players in this game because you outwitted, outlasted and outplayed us all. But I want to see things in better perspective. Besides winning the last 2 Ics, what other actions did you do to change the outcome of the game and bring you to the final 2?
I'd say I did an awful lot to get to the Final Five, for one. Of the people from the old Anubis tribe, there were pretty clearly only a few players willing to take the lead strategically and I was one of them. I had a major hand in voting out everyone up until the Sarah vote... not just in terms of voting for them, but being social, talking to people and ensuring that the votes were on my side. After the Britney vote I knew that I didn't have the numbers, and I'm pretty proud of the fact that I made it to the Final 2 anyway.
3. Did you think luck was a major part of why you are where you are now?
I think that luck played virtually no role in why I'm here. When I led the charge to vote someone out, the end result came from a lot of hard work. When I won immunity challenges it was the result of my skill and perseverance. The one instance where I guess luck did play a part was the time the pre-jury awarded me immunity, but that's pretty much it. I worked really hard in this game.
Thanks, Lex. Good questions.
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Post by nash on Sept 15, 2009 1:13:09 GMT -4
I'm all set. Thanks Conan and LG. Good luck!!!
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